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8 years 2 months ago #1 by JeanAllTrekkie

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  • Whats Next? was created by JeanAllTrekkie
    What do you guys think will be the next title or expansion for Scourge of War?

    1. Vicksburg
    2. Shiloh
    3. Atlanta
    4. Wilderness 1864
    5. Franklin
    6. Chickamauga
    7. Chattanooga

    OR perhaps a new era?

    1. American Revolution
    2. War of 1812
    3. Mexican War

    or lastly a iPad version of SOW.

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    8 years 2 months ago #2 by garyknowz

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    My first guess would be Fredericksburg. Seems like a logical extension to Chancellorsville. But there has been pressure for a western battle, so I expect Shiloh and Chickamauga/Chattanooga to be on the drawing board. I'd be very happy with any of these.

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    8 years 2 months ago #3 by Saddletank

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    OR perhaps a new era?

    1. American Revolution
    2. War of 1812
    3. Mexican War

    Why the focus on American wars?

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    8 years 2 months ago #4 by kaschykb

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  • Replied by kaschykb on topic Re: Whats Next?
    I thought its already been reported that Shiloh is on deck. I'm very happy with that. Fredericksburg seems like it would have a severe lack of interesting scenarios.

    www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2012/12/21/interview-sow-chancellorville-oob-designers/

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    8 years 2 months ago #5 by JeanAllTrekkie

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  • Replied by JeanAllTrekkie on topic Re: Whats Next?
    Because European Wars have been done to death lol.

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    8 years 2 months ago #6 by General Matt Adler

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  • Replied by General Matt Adler on topic Re: Whats Next?
    I think the Mexican era would be good.

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    8 years 2 months ago #7 by JeanAllTrekkie

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  • Replied by JeanAllTrekkie on topic Re: Whats Next?

    I thought its already been reported that Shiloh is on deck. I'm very happy with that. Fredericksburg seems like it would have a severe lack of interesting scenarios.

    www.brettschulte.net/CWBlog/2012/12/21/interview-sow-chancellorville-oob-designers/

    WOW thanks for that article. I put it on my Blog - www.strategywargamer.com

    I cant wait till this game comes out. Im Buying it ... THE MINUTE IT COMES OUT!

    Im obsessed with Scourge of War games. Bout to do a FULL review of SOW Chancellorsville and SOW Antietam

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    8 years 2 months ago #8 by JeanAllTrekkie

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  • Replied by JeanAllTrekkie on topic Re: Whats Next?

    I think the Mexican era would be good.


    The Mexican War would be interesting.

    But I really would like to see A American Revolution Game. The trick is selling it ... marketing wise. Theres only a small percentage of American Revolution events... i.e. Reenactments, Anniversary celebrations, etc. compared to Civil War. Its Sad that The War that created this nation is not as historically popular as others.

    But I think with the right marketing you can make as much money as other titles. The trick is making a REALLY GOOD GAME and marketing the crap out of it. Hit up all the top sites - wargamer.com, gamespot.com, even Steam. Get some of those casual and AAA gamers. Attend events ie. Historicon, Historic Williamsburg events, E3, PAX. Get word out and let them see how awesome the game is. Once they see graphics and gameplay they like people will shell out dough for it.

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    8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #9 by Saddletank

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  • Replied by Saddletank on topic Re: Whats Next?

    Because European Wars have been done to death lol.

    They have? Can you name me some titles? Total War is hopeless at representing the gunpowder era' its battles are laughable. We can discount that as taking up NSD's market since its not aimed at wargamers but at arcade game players. Histwar is a little too inaccesible and slow. I can't think of any other RTS for the black powder era in Europe. Its a huge untapped game market, possibly bigger than the ACW for wargamers and certaionly bigger than the other American was you mentioned. Any product NSD makes has got to have wide appeal; I don't think a game based on the Mexican War would sell enough units to be successful.

    The AWI would be an interesting war to cover and I can see modders converting it to a full SYW game which would have some appeal in Europe though nowhere near as much as, say, a Napoleonic game.

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    8 years 2 months ago #10 by Kondor999

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  • Replied by Kondor999 on topic Re: Whats Next?
    Lord God, *please* do a Napoleonic battle. Waterloo is fine, Austerlitz even better. Hell, do Jena if you want but for God's sake do something! ;)

    Seriously, the grandest era of warfare ever known cries out for a proper treatment. This engine could do it right.

    There's a lot of us out here waiting. How much subject appeal does the ACW have for your international audience? By going Napoleonic, you're attracting a much wider market.

    And plus, the Naploeonic uniforms are just way better. :P

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    8 years 2 months ago #11 by Jack ONeill

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  • Replied by Jack ONeill on topic Re: Whats Next?
    Kondor,

    Since you are new here, (1 post), please check out the Napoleonic Mod for this game, which many of us have helped put together. It would definitely wet your appetite. :cheer:

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    8 years 2 months ago #12 by Kondor999

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    I'll definitely "come and take it"! ;)

    Thanks for the info...
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    8 years 2 months ago #13 by garyknowz

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  • Replied by garyknowz on topic Re: Whats Next?

    Fredericksburg seems like it would have a severe lack of interesting scenarios./


    I disagree. I see potential for A LOT of 'what if' scenarios. Both the AoNV and the AotP were at the peek of their power and present on the field. I think it offers one of the best one v. one straight up army battles in the American Civil War.

    Besides, Fredericksburg is already half done. Most of the map is available in Chancellorsville. All that is needed is an extension to the southeast to cover Jackson's position. OOBs are done too.

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    8 years 2 months ago #14 by kaschykb

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  • Replied by kaschykb on topic Re: Whats Next?
    I'll give you Fredricksburg might allow for what if scenarios but I'd prefer a strong stock of historical scenarios. Those of interest would be limited to Prospect Hill.

    The fact that the map and OOB for Fredericksburg is "half done" would also make the expansion feel "half new." To each their own but a western theatre battle would be all new maps and OOB's. I hope the Shiloh rumor is true.... or Chickamauga, Perryville, Stones River

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    8 years 2 months ago #15 by 30th PVI

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  • Replied by 30th PVI on topic Re: Whats Next?
    I think the same can be said for the other "half"of a potential map, the Wilderness. I think it would be interesting since we got a taste of the woods limitations in Chancellorsville. I think there would be plenty of historical situations to recreate along with many "what-ifs". What if Burnside had pushed harder in the middle...or what if Gordon had gotten into the union rear. Plenty of options. just my thoughts

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    8 years 2 months ago #16 by KG_Soldier

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  • Replied by KG_Soldier on topic Re: Whats Next?
    We've got to have McClellan's Peninsular Campaign/7 Days.

    Near equal armies.

    Several big battles.

    Perfect for a carryover campaign game.

    Big enough to make it worth buying.

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    8 years 2 months ago #17 by Don

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    It would make sense to me that the next addition would continue in the eastern theater. All of the other additions have been built around the theme of Gettysburg/the invasion of the north. Some of us still have TC2M, which did a fine job of trying to knit together Civil War campaigns. I would be pleased with any campaign that is done thoroughly, and I have no objection to other wars being included. However, I think that the new addition would most logically be an extension of the Eastern Theater. The Fredericksburg map is almost done for an extension to that campaign. Shiloh could even be reworked from TC2M; The \battles leading to Vicksburg were fairly well covered, as were the Manassas campaigns. McClellan's campaign would also be a good choice. There are plenty of battles/campaigns to choose from. It's all a matter of maps. Zeke does a great job with OOBs, which is all he's currently allowed to handle.

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    8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 1 month ago #18 by garyknowz

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  • Replied by garyknowz on topic Re: Whats Next?

    The fact that the map and OOB for Fredericksburg is "half done" would also make the expansion feel "half new." To each their own but a western theatre battle would be all new maps and OOB's. I hope the Shiloh rumor is true.... or Chickamauga, Perryville, Stones River


    Don't get me wrong, a western battle will be fantastic. And I'm glad Shiloh is in the works---I've been waiting for that since defeating TC2M (sadly, I can't get TC2M to work on my new PC so I can't play the TC2M Shiloh mod). BTW, Stones River would be awesome too. It's perhaps the most overlooked campaign of the war (as was 2M was before MMG came along).

    But it terms of quicker turnaround, thematic continuity, and business acumen, Fredericksburg is the obvious "next" choice. An entirely new campaign can take a year or more to produce. So while waiting for these western battles, why not throw us a nice big appetizer? They kind of have to in order to keep the fire under the fanbase kettle stoked.

    Edit: Sorry, I suffer from a serious case of typosis. I should make that my signature. :)

    Sorry. I suffer from a serious case of typosis. Don't worry, it's not contagious :)
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    8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #19 by Little Powell

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  • Replied by Little Powell on topic Re: Whats Next?
    This is a fun topic to read--really enjoy the responses. As I have said before, we can't make any announcements yet on what's next. But I can't wait to read the responses when we do. :)
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    8 years 1 month ago #20 by rbuck

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    From my avatar you can probably guess I would love to see something in the West. Shiloh would be a great starting spot. And I know this would not be a high priorty campaign but I would love to see Jackson's Valley Campaign done right as only you guys can do it!

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    8 years 1 month ago #21 by Don

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    Zeke did a great job on the OOBs for Jackson. All we lack there are the maps. I agree with rbuck that this would be a great extension, simply because of the mystique of Jackson's Valley Campaign. :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

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    8 years 1 month ago #22 by born2see

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  • Replied by born2see on topic Re: Whats Next?
    Little Powell wrote:

    This is a fun topic to read--really enjoy the responses. As I have said before, we can't make any announcements yet on what's next. But I can't wait to read the responses when we do. :P


    Yes indeed!

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    8 years 1 month ago #23 by 35th Georgia

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    I look forward to what is in store.Personally I hope yall stick with the War Between the States until you've ehausted every avenue. SOW beats anything else out there and has got me to looking into more than ever as to how it's done and Modding. SH4 whet my appetite but yall have given me a full blown meal.

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    8 years 1 month ago #24 by rbuck

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    I agree that I would like to every ACW battle worth simulating covered before moving on. Would love to someday get into the Napoleonic Wars however as I know little about the subject but have always been fascinated.

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    8 years 1 month ago #25 by Jack ONeill

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    rbuck,

    Just pull down the NapMod and get stuck in. No better way to learn.

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    8 years 1 month ago #26 by 35th Georgia

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    Silent Hunter 4 is what got me interested in modding and it seems that now I'm always learning. I hope to begin working with modding on SOW but I'm not at the point that I feel confident enough to do the things I'd like to. If ever there was a place to learn and a game set up to learn on here is it. Best game community I have ever run across.

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    What Silent Hunter 4 mods do you recommend? I love the Gray Wolf's for SH3 but could never find a great repository for SH4 mods.


    I like TMO and most of Websters stuff. Look into the download section at subsim Graphics and Gameplay section has a nice array. To be honest the playabilty of SOW has anything I've seen beat because of the many directions that you can take the game. I will say having been in the Navy that SH4 realism is great.

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    8 years 1 month ago #28 by Saddletank

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    This is a fun topic to read--really enjoy the responses. As I have said before, we can't make any announcements yet on what's next. But I can't wait to read the responses when we do. :)

    Any chance of even a slight hint?

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    This is a fun topic to read--really enjoy the responses. As I have said before, we can't make any announcements yet on what's next. But I can't wait to read the responses when we do. :)

    Any chance of even a slight hint?


    Ok, a slight hint. The combat will be from the 19th century.

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    This is a fun topic to read--really enjoy the responses. As I have said before, we can't make any announcements yet on what's next. But I can't wait to read the responses when we do. :)

    Any chance of even a slight hint?


    Ok, a slight hint. The combat will be from the 19th century.


    19th century BC

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